Bonom - 2

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deleted_177 |         

Alright, so at least you didn't mean to steal the idea. I won't bother you anymore then ... wink.gif
Greets

DoM |         

@Paul : I've always loved minimalism an aphorism, in every art fields, music (more Webern pieces than phil Glass), litterature (Francis Ponge poetry), and visual arts.
I don't "let the whole idea evolve" by itselves : I did many trys for each idea before to find a satisfying rythm, and even until it works.
I don't try to be recognized as an original creator doing this : as I said, I honnestly love minimalism and to play with the media I use.
(I do the same in other domains)
I didn'd copy anyone : I began this work 15 years ago (and worked on over than 150 ideas) ! and then I didn't know any exemple of play with comics panel. I discoverd them later but I never inspire myself from any existing exemple. I rediscover some would you probably say...
I agree with you about criticism !

deleted_177 |         

I don't appreciate the minimalist idea behind it. It's really just about taking the play with panel borders to interact with a protagonist and letting the whole idea evolve around just this one topic (that, as I said, artists have played with for years and years). Your argumentation is, quite frankly, absurd, because according to that even using a pencil would be stealing intellectual property.
I think folks who do that are trying to take advantage of the little background knowledge that some people have on comics. They will go: "Oh, this is so original! He is letting the character interact with the panel!" ... that is what MIGHT upset me about it.
Take Will Eisner, the comic-godfather ... his play with panel shapes, sizes and textures was ingenious! Yours I just don't fancy at all - that alone would be totally ok - but I suspect you are a copy-cat.
Finally, that's my opinion and I don't mean to make you angry, but I would rather ask these questions on originality. Also, the fact that I don't like it is very normal (I got people who can't stand my stuff, too). Criticism is what we have to live with (and maybe learn from).

DoM |         

@paul : telling storys has been done a million of times too ! And sometimes the same story (think at any theater play...). Then we are interested in the way the story is told. It is the same for comic's panel gag. The fact that somebody allready experiment it doesn't ban other ones to continue. In each art field, artists have been working on their own domain rules and, and hopefully, they continue to do it, even if it has been done before ! This kind of research has no end !

You aren't the first one who react to Bonom as you did (some others, even very involved in the comic's field, do realy like it). Then I allways asked to give me exemples of this kind of work. I allready knew a lot of them, like Gotlieb, Fmur, Fred, ... windsor mac kay ! But those comic's artists, that I really appreciate, don't play with the panels as a mean purpose. It is much more peripheral. Anyway, I'd be glad you indicate me the art works you are thinking about.

You even seem to be upset ! Are you upset by all the cartoons, storys or graphic styles (some we can see on this website for instance), that are obviously NOT original ? Bonom might affect you in a very specific way ! I'm honoured !

Bonom tends to explore panels gags in the most minimalist way it is possible (or I can), and through many ways and variations.
But it's also and maybe mostly a research on time an space, in other words rythm.

The style is clean to make it more readable. The character is round for to contrast whith the panel's squares. He has a big nose because it's an archetype of european classical character. Mainly, all the design trys to disappear behind the idea and the rythm of the gag.

@Leichnam and Made : ich verstehe doch etwas Deutch, aber English ist besser für mich (oder Fransoze !), danke sehr !

Made |         

@paul: Why has everything to be original? Me I didnt know these old panel-gags and I am quite amused by this series. I look forward to see more of these pages.
Maby this work is a homage to these old panel gags - or Bonom is simply younger than 50 years. Who knows?
Bonom knows!

@Bonom: Maby you should write something about your motivation to draw this series. As I know from your homepage you declined this theme in over 30(!) pages smile.gif

@leichnam: Write in english please! angry.gifwink.gif

Leichnam |         

Weiter! Höher! Tiefer! devil.gif

Nu übersetz mal selber! Ihr schreibt ja auch nischt deutsch ... devil.gifwink.gif

deleted_177 |         

I don't wanna keep nagging around, but panel gags are, like, 50 years old or somethin'. As I remember, they were all better than this one, too. And I hope you don't think you're doing anything original there?! Maybe you have something else to show us, cause that's old.
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